The reptiloids however, once given access, immediately began
taking advantage of the collective and used it to CONTROL the humans on a
subliminal basis. The ease with which this occurred may have been enhanced
by the fact that the Reptiloids and Grays were already operating as part of
a collective or group mind, one which was far more complex than the Ashtar
or Astarte collective itself which many of the 'Aghartians' depended on.


This suggests that the reptilian 'collective' or HIVE itself is absolutely
void of any and all care, concern or compassion for human beings.
Individual reptiloids operating distinct from the draconian collective
might however be 'tamed' by other collective-free humanoids in some cases
-- as some have reportedly been 'tamed' by the Andro-Pleiadean worlds. If
the non-humans could be severed from the 'collective' they might be
deprogrammed and reprogrammed so-to-speak and even attain individual
awareness and a degree of emotionalism. In such cases it would not be
advisable to give these creatures equal standing among humans, and absolute
subservience and monitoring should be enforced even if means were found to
sever them from the collective mind network.


When dealing with the
reptilian forces, unconditional surrender should be first offered, and if
this is not accepted than direct military action would be justified
especially in light of the many permanent 'abductees' whom the Greys and
Reptiloids have taken captive [those who are still alive] to their
underground systems. Most of the treaties that the humanoids had made with
the reptiloids 'down under' have since been broken... especially following
the Groom Wars of 1975 and the Dulce Wars of 1979, during which time much
of the underground U.S. base networks [which were funded by American tax
dollars by the way] were taken over by the Grays. Some sources have implied
that the aliens took advantage of the chaos especially during the Dulce
wars and commenced to invade and conquer several of the older underground


This apparently led to a rift in the 'Ashtar' collective, with
many humanoids and hybrids splitting off and joining with the
Andro-Pleiadean Federation non-interventionists, and many reptiloids and
heartless humanoid agents splitting off and joining with the
interventionists of the Draco-Orion Empire. The Sirius-B system which --
aside from Arcturus and Sol -- has been the major center of 'Ashtar'
activity, has since been shaken by this split between the two opposing
Ashtarian factions and war had reportedly raged through the Sirius system
for several years, according to some 'contactees'... an apparent reflection
of the division within the underground networks of North America between
the Pleiadean-backed Sirian humanoids and Orion-backed Sirian reptiloids
which both had maintained operations within the underground levels before
the "Dulce Wars" broke out.